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It is unlikely that anybody in the military will fire upon American citizens. It would be interesting to know whose hair brained idea that was. I suspect it was a certain gay man from Kenya or should I say Hawaii. In an event with over 400 million guns in the hands of mostly right wing conservatives, I suspect the military has already gamed the system and they don’t want to end up like the pilots in Mogadishu.

The sad part about Kamala is that she was too stupid to know that she was the Patsy in this whole affair. Unfortunately, there are many like her who are now surgeons at hospitals and pilots flying for commercial airlines whose egos are bigger than their skill set.

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You really don't know the military, at least, today's military. Yes, they will shoot you if ordered to do so. People like us have been designated as domestic terrorists in their SOPs, although that's not bandied about publicly.

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Plus there are a lot of brain dead people in .mil

Just sayin is all, brainwashed

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And trannies and other assorted broken weirdos. The military, at this point, is primarily composed of people who are otherwise unemployable. Part of the reason to keep a massive standing army is to make unemployment numbers look better.

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The ones with brains were filtered out by the death jab mandates.

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^This.

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I do not think so. Look at Yugoslavia, or Syria. Both areas with the same sort of ideologic divisions we see here. Yugoslavia self-divided itself after the Balkan war, and has been relatively quiet since. But it had a war period when things were being settled on who owns what. Syria had Assad trying to control rebellion with the military, half deserted and went to the opposition. That one is still being fought, with the USA and Russia using the sides as proxies.

The USA has states that have the right to leave the country, according to some. The Deep State will try to defend itself, knowing that if allowed secession with destroy its power. They will try to knock down the opposition, first with the courts then with the military when the states tell them to eff off. They will look to the Pentagon to put down rebellion and find out that the soldiers have gone home to defend their states. Look at Robert E. Lee, a confirmed Unionist until Virginia left the Union. He went home and became the thorn in the side to the North that he was.

Kathy, our Union is about as strong as the fiat dollars it produces, close to worthless. Maybe BRICS+ will make this incompetent Deep State realize how precarious their hold is. Do you believe that American pilots and the troops will fire on their fellow Americans for giving the finger to the Deep State?

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There will be some that fire on Americans if order to, but the military won’t know their enemy. It will be Vietnam on steroids.

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An excellent and profound observation... If you'll allow me, I'd like to add "and no language barrier".

Except the South. No one understands us; "shit" and "damn" both have two syllables here!

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Pelosi, Mayorkas, Fauci, et al find that violent chaos preferable to being justly hanged for their crimes against the US.

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why not both?

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Both violent chaos and hanging?

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And some of us can fire back,

Just sayin is all

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Mark. Hence the massive cluster bearing down upon us all. Arm up. Prep.

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Tribe Up, Be a Slave/Prisoner or Die those are our only three options at this point...

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In a heartbeat. I was in for 20 years. I know the mentality.

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When 50% of the country is “the other side”? The French Revolution started when the army told the Royals to go to hell and stormed the Bastille, a date still celebrated there.

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I've thought about this from another perspective. I have to wonder just how bad it it in other countries that people would sell themselves and travel thousands of miles to get to the US, many not even able to speak the language. Given there are so many of them, why do they not fight for their countries?

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They are not here on their own power, they are here as an organized effort to divvie up the USA into segments, then Balkanize itself. WW3 by BRICS+ without a shot or nuke being fired.

There is an large element of the Deep State that is reckoning on this.

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NGOs that tell them of wealth and prosperity handed to all,

They usually leave out the after lots of hard work and failures

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Any state can secede, quickly and peacefully, through the use of "nuclear blackmail". If a State Governor acquires one or more nuclear devices, with the ability to detonate them, he can leave the Union on the spot, without a shot being fired. The way thing work with US Presidents is that they are often presented with a set of choices, options, and they have staffs of advisors who give them input on their decisions. At the end of this, as W. Bush famously said, as president "I'm the decider". Now, in this case the President would be given a binary choice: Sir, Do you 1) want to be the first president to rule over the peaceful break-up of the United States or 2) want to be the first president in office, in charge, when a nuclear weapon is detonated on US soil? Mind you, 1,000 years from now, long after the USA is history, denizens of the region where the bomb went off will still curse your name, as they are stuck with poisoned land, irradiated water, and radioactive waste that has a half life of thousands of years, causing cancer and other woes to these folks, to their children, to their grand-children and so on. Any sane president would say "The state can go in peace" on the spot, and that would be the beginning of the end of the United States. Why would anyone want to risk nuclear detonations on US soil? BTW, folks far wiser than I have written books about precisely this scenario, one famous series was called Ecotopia.

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Oct 25·edited Oct 25

Lincoln would have welcomed the detonation. No amount of casualties would have caused Lincoln to stop short of total victory. That was their entire military strategy.

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Um, my post was not about a bunch of states banding together, raising a rebel army, and firing on a Federal Fort. It was about the most plausible way a single state would secede today, in the modern era. The USA of 2024 is very different than the USA of 1860, and its dissolution will be very different, too. If you are looking for a modern analogy of how the US might break up, the fall of the Soviet Union is more likely, realistic model for what could happen here.

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You said that a president would be faced with a choice of whether to risk a nuclear detonation or to let the state go in peace. What I am saying is that if Lincoln were president today and he were faced with that scenario, he would drop the nuke or allow it to be dropped. He would never let a state go in peace. FDR would probably do the same. He provoked and encouraged Pearl Harbor and laid the groundwork for the nukes to be dropped on Japan.

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Well said, Tom.

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Right, it won't be the Americans firing on Americans, but Biden's millions of recently imported military-aged men.

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Forgive me but I think you’re pipe dreaming but I hope I’m wrong.

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Every state has the constitutional right to leave the union. That doesn't mean they'll ever let you out...

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Who's interpretation of the Constitution is correct?- In the final analysis it doesn't really matter. History is written by the victors. The Feds have overwhelming firepower and perhaps more importantly there is much coercive pressure short of an out right shootin'war that can bring an errant state to heel.

Ultimately geopolitics comes down to one essential rule> "The strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must" ~Thucydides, Athenian General, circa 425BC.

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I don't think it comes down to interpretation. It's plain in the text of the 10th Amendment.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

The power over secession is not granted to the federal government, so it is reserved to the states and people. Case closed.

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I agree with you that that is the correct interpretation. My point is that what you and I think, in the final analysis doesn't matter. The Southern States attempted secession based upon your and their understanding of the Constitution. Lincoln had a different reading and he had an army to impose his reading of it.

When the troops show up no one is talking about interpretations any more. The Victors impose their interpretation... and their courts retroactively justify it.

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I believe most of the original states that ratified the Constitution have a clause in their own constitutions that if the results of the ratification didn't work for them, they have the right to secede from the union. After that original compact Texas has a similar clause in their constitution when they became a state.

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If secessionists, insurgents, rebels, or whatever you want to call them kill any serving military, group loyalty will ensure that revenge for fallen comrades will be exacted. Ditto police. There can be no other outcome.

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Yes, I think the military mostly fights out of military group solidarity, not out of any principles.

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Who cares why?

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It helps to predict what they are likely to do.

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So what is to be done? Nothing?

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I could be wrong, but the impression I got was that the Deep State wants to fracture and destroy the US so it can then 'build back better'. What effective difference is there when the global capitalists want to control the whole world? They're focusing on the UN, WEF, WHO etc. to throw their weight around, no?

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Answering your final question, no. The Pentagon has invested in the blob but rank and file military hate the imposition of DEI and trans sailors.

They also hate the idea of the CIA and FBI taking over the government with assassination attempts and running a virtual coup. The military is on the side of the American people and democracy and will step in to protect the integrity of the election results if necessary. I firmly believe this DOD directive is good news, and stemmed from the same sources that refused the Biden/Blinken proposal to use American long range weapons on Russian cities and citizens.

Hell no, the generals said. And afterwards got this directive through that guarantees a change in government. Unlike politicians and the people they manipulate, generals ain’t stupid (in General 😬)

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My twin nephews enlisted in the reserves, and tell me they were asked this question. I believe they said yes, as most did, though they wouldn't admit it, and I didn't press them. If it comes to that, they don't believe most actually would.

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Some will & some of us will fire back.

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Yep. Order followers will commit all manners of atrocities if commanded to do so by "authorities". There's a reason the government calls them "heroes".

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Hard to say. Mob violence often has a logic of its own.

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Yes, and the usual excuse is that 'I was just following orders' like the police who arrested people in parks who weren't wearing masks a couple years ago.

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Oct 25·edited Oct 25

It sounds so like the Jews in the ghettos doesn’t it? “Ahhhh, they won’t hurt us. They won’t kill us. Soon this will be over. You’ll see.”

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The Warsaw Jews in 39/40 had some guns and ammo and fought back until they couldn’t. Americans will take only so much shit. The destructive power of guerrilla warfare cannot be underestimated,

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But think about the heros who stayed under the radar like Corrie Ten Boom and her father and sister. They were saving hundreds of Jews, helping them escape right under the noses of the Nazis.

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Yes, and good Jews will help us escape from the Zio Empire American has become?

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I agree with you but I also believe it’s important to note the similarities of the thinking should our military find themselves in this situation. In many ways there are differences. Most people here have guns and …. Well, I’ll stop there.

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We have small arms. They have drones and tanks and fighter jets. But, most important of all, they have a complete surveillance state. They know everything you say, do, write, watch, listen to, etc. That is why nothing productive can be accomplished until the surveillance state is smashed.

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It's worth remembering that an economy quickly developed in the Ghetto, and those who were able to acquire valuables - gold, jewellery, furs, artworks, etc - in exchange for food and medicines, and also privileges (not all were equal by any means) imagined they'd be made once they got out.

Sometimes I'm almost inclined to think that those particular reptiles got what they deserved......

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Ummm, Soros comes to mind.

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Yeah, why isn’t someone trying to assassinate that SOB?

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That's what created Israel, really. Now those Jews have completely flipped and are extremely aggressive. Makes sense.

But now they're fighting against Muslims, who are far more fanatical than even the Nazis were. Very bad situation all around.

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My thoughts as well.

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I will believe that they wont when the day comes and they dont, until then,

In the words of Ole Remus,

Stay away from crowds

Sharpen your skills and your kit, we may need em

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Well, if you consider the National Guard is a component of our military, there Is precedence of the firing and killing American citizens. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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Remember Kent State. Black Panther. Alinsky et al and the bombing of Congress and sponsored violence. Remember race riots in Watts, Roof top Koreans.. yeah? Ringing a bell anyone? Cause I see a bad moon on the rise, don't go around tonight your bound to lose your life...and further on, I hope you are quite prepared to die. Earthquakes and hurricanes.. for a bunch of So Cal/Cal boys they really got the Louisiana/ Southern Rock down pat.

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We had the Kent State killings without DOD Directive 5240.01.

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I looked into that incident. I believe someone in the crowd fired a shot first. I don't know if it was a government operative or some student with a gun. That started the whole thing. The National Guard fired back.

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Thanks, never heard that before.

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"It is unlikely that anybody in the military will fire upon American citizens"

Mark,

Jesus Christ! Read a book, will you?

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LOL! So true.

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A cynical person might say that importing 10 - 20 million criminal aliens is a way to provide the CIA with a lot of military age men who would be perfectly happy to fire on Americans.

Remember that the Tiananmen Square Massacre was done by rural folks who resented the city slickers in Beijing. They were also perfectly happy to shoot.

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I had one of those DEI hires when someone had a heart attack. She was a pregnant woman in the ER. Thank God a top-notch Cardiac surgeon was there. I knew more about heart disease than that woman. She was not capable at all. We had the same problem when a family member had a nut allergy and had to go to ER. Try to go to the smaller community hospital.

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DEI hires will continue to cost people their lives. Whether it is doctors, nurses, airline pilots or the people who build the planes; it is only a matter of time until a major catastrophe hits due to people being put in positions they do not deserve.

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The good news is that the wokeness has infected government agencies so severely that they are no longer competent at assassinating presidents.

Hell, even the current VP and Dem candidate is an incompetent diversity hire.

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That's why your elected representatives always fly private.

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They also seek out non-jabbed pilots.

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Proof please? I can only hope it’s true but find that hard to believe.

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That was a story that came out years ago. I don't have reference. Look it up yourself.

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Oct 27·edited Oct 27

Seriously? You can’t provide reference so you defer to me to “look it up yourself”. Ilshmsh

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DIE is for the hoi polloi.

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Ever hear of Kent State? There are always paid thugs who will follow any order.

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They used bayonets on American citizens in the forced integration of Little Rock schools some decades ago. Have things gotten any better since - or in fact far worse?

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Chadd Wright had some interesting observations on this and the current mindset of the military. Don't let the accent throw you. Chadd's a "Been There & Done It" kinda guy.

Would The Military Act Against American Citizens If Ordered To

https://youtu.be/Ob2VoJd10oY

DOD Authorized To Use Lethal Force Against Civilians | Directive 5240.01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ3_f_iaBVE

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Yes, I think that the Woke BS is simply a tactic to weed out anyone predisposed to think for themselves. Already, the population of people (southerners) who have traditionally been the mainstay of the military are backing off enlisting and serving. Now, only the most malleable personalities are willing to serve and to stay in the armed forces.

But acknowledging that, a widespread civil war would be a complete shitshow. There are fault lines everywhere. I have long maintained that the paradigm would not be anything like the American Civil War of 1861-65, but more like the Spanish Civil War of 1936-39, or maybe even like the 30 Years War of 1618-48. The disintigration of an Empire can be very messy and ugly because of all the divergent fault lines: political, economic, ethnic, racial, ideological, theological.

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👍👍👍

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twenty years ago I would have said most wouldn't, they would honor their oath. I don't think that anymore. I'm also a 21 year veteran of combat arms for what it's worth, which is probably nothing.

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What if it was drone or air strikes? Today's soldiers have been raised on electronic killing games, and after these gene-altering injections are probably more controllable than ever. And then remember how easily the FBI broke down doors in the middle of the night, armed to the teeth, ready to shoot at any perceived objection - and those are only the ones we were allowed to know about, the message sent loud and clear. I'd bet there are sufficient numbers that will do as told.

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Oct 26·edited Oct 26

Let us not forget what the feds did to Bill Cooper, PBUH, RIP...

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hooah

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Glad you get it.

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So many don't. I wish y'all the best.

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Mark. A former military perhaps. Todays woke and bastardized bagged leadership commanding fresh immigrant recruits would do anything to maintain the image of real fighting men and women. Damned right they would pull the trigger on unarmed Americans which is most of us.

I get the responsibly armed minority in possession of 400M plus firearms. Count me in. Either way it’s gonna get ugly fast.

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First, there is little chance Kamala didn’t know she was a patsy. The New World Order is a plan, a conspiracy these people are all tethered to. They all know what the game plan is.

Secondly, guns are really no contest to the drones they will fly over our homes and assembled groups ready to spit bullets. As Joe Biden warned us, “we have tanks!” Biden warned us twice in speeches that it’s no contest against an evil government with modern warfare and our guns.

And lastly, yes, it’s the ignorant Americans who will be our downfall.

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"it’s the ignorant Americans who will be our downfall"

which is why I'm psyched about Dr. Geert vanden Bossche's prediction that a "tsunami of death" will overtake those who took the mRNA jab. Mind you, the abundant side-effects are also encouraging.

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Yes but the junk SHEDS. You are contaminated too. Not perhaps as the direct injectors,but the neural lace, the Morgllon tech, the nano bots and quantum entanglement are infecting the entire world...

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+1 You know about nattokinase, etc., to combat shedding, right? We do what we can. I haven't heard of several of the technological things you've mentioned but, yeah, I agree with you that we live in a bath of chemical and electrical malevolence.

But our bodies have an UNREAL ability to heal and to recover from abuse. Frogs and salamanders are even more sensitive; it amazes me that they haven't gone extinct.

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Well that's when you need the mono filament net with throwers , LOL. Asymmetric war fare, guerilla warefare sabotage from within if you got the ballz to go there...You will likely be found and disappeared (no martyrs in this op!). OTH think of Gulag Archipelago do... a little targeted resistance goes a long way.

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Kunstler can't read the armed forces edict. It imposes restrictions on what the military can do, not expands it. Go listen to Robert Barnes explain exactly what it is. Don't just take JHK's word for it.

Local cops are way more of a threat than the military. And, no, the military isn't full of creeps and weirdos. There's just more now than before and they all go online in drag which makes it look a lot worse than it is. If a conflict breaks out I'd expect the incidence of friendly fire will cull that crowd pretty quickly, btw.

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"Local cops are way more of a threat than the military."

This.

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From the AFCEA website: "After careful consideration, AFCEA-Atlanta (a chapter of AFCEA International) and its event production partner Federal Business Council (FBC) are postponing the 2024 Homeland Security Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Conference. originally scheduled in Atlanta for November 6-7, 2024, and a pre-conference tabletop exercise during setup on the 5th. A rapid and unanticipated rise in rhetoric and threats stemming from disinformation about the purpose of the event and its proximity to Election Day contributed to the decision to postpone."

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Oct 25·edited Oct 25

Lovely. They're postponing this little "tabletop exercise" on account of a "rise in rhetoric and threats stemming from disinformation." In other words, on account of free speech.

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If one wants to stop disinformation, put a gag on the medical cartel and the government.

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Don’t forget the banksters.

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Thank you! It pisses me off that many seem to forget the banksters' responsibility for past and current global tragedies.

As Major General Smedley Butler wrote in "War is a Racket":

"And let us not forget the bankers who financed the great war.

If anyone had the cream of the profits it was the bankers.

Being partnerships rather than incorporated organizations, they do not have to report to stockholders.

And their profits were as secret as they were immense. How the bankers made their millions and their billions I do not know, because those little secrets never become public -- even before a Senate investigatory body."

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That's why Hillary said people who spread it should be locked up.

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What sane or decent person would have ever dreamed of doing this in the first place? It smacks of Event 201 and then the subsequent Plandemic. We're onto them and they don't like it.

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Things that make you go Hmmm..🤔

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I'm not sure I actually believe that they'll postpone it!

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yeah, that's the reality. They lie and do it anyway under cover.

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Thanks! Kept me from throwing a fit on X.

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And what happened to posse comitatus laws that forbid the US Military from operating inside the US? Were they quietly repealed without anyone knowing about it?

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I remember during Obama's kingship when nobody got promoted in the military if they said they wouldn't fire on America's. Many also lied when they answered.

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Rome had posse comitatus laws before Sulla, then Caesar defied the law.

History repeating itself.

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Lots of parallels with Rome.... The US has been an empire your entire life.

This week, BRICS had their big meeting in Kazan.

We haven't heard about BRICS here in a while. The biggest motivator for this group is the desire and need to be able to conduct business and trade without using the US dollar.

That is because the dollar, in addition to being fiat currency, which is only useful for buying tangible American products or American assets (land, corporations), is also used by the US government to control and manipulate other nations.

Other nations don't like being manipulated.

And other nations, and their peoples (as well as many people in the West, and even the US, who are being ignored or silenced) don't agree that Russia is an "aggressor", or that it is right for Israel to wantonly kill civilians, enabled by the US.

So, they don't like being manipulated by a government they see, with some justification, as treacherous, hypocritical, and now, DANGEROUS to world peace.

So, they are working on a workaround to the dollar-denominated system. In many respects (bi-lateral trade), they are succeeding. If and when they dethrone (not replace, just dethrone) the dollar, the US will be just another big ex-colonial power, like France or Britain.

And in a society living on credit cards, when the credit cards are cut, that might usher in civil disturbances.

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Yes, you recognize the steps being exercised to turn us into an empire.

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Department of Defense directive 5240.01 would seem to be a direct end-run around it.

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It's a good idea to (at least try to) fact check things, even with less-than-honest Google. Everyone has an agenda.

Courtesy of google, dodsioo.defense.gov has a few links. From those, I infer this directive was on the books from way back. It was rescinded in 1988 (Reagan Administration), reissued in 2007 (Bush Administration).

This latest "update", per another website, ronaldwchapman.com/blog/dod52401, says the "troubling part is paragraph 3.3, and Chapman seems to say that the threshold for using force has been loosened in this latest directive. From his website, here is paragraph 3.3

"3.3 Defense Intelligence Components may provide personnel to assist a Federal department or agency, including a Federal law enforcement agency…when lives are in danger, in response to a request for such assistance, in accordance with the following approval authorities:"

I'm not a lawyer, but this implies that the Feds already have the legal right to "respond" with a level of force that may cause "serious injury or death".

So, I don't really think much has changed in practice.

You can find the directive on-line. It is 24 pages, I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not going to take the time to study and decipher what it says.

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The Constitution, which all laws are made in pursuant of, is just ideas expressed as words on paper. Without the wherewithal by the citizenry to protect those words, those ideas, we settle into the existence that, historically, societies all apparently gravitate towards…tribal, violent, authoritarian in nature.

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according to little shrub the Constitution is just a G-D piece of paper. I don't know whether he actually said that, because of all the lies out there but I don't have any trouble believing he did. Just for the record I despise all of them, bush, kerry, mittens, obama, the current pedo in chief and the current cackler and more.

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Baby Bush got rid of it.

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Should we allow the takeover of America by a certain corrupt cabal that’s captured the DNC? We taxpayers paid for this military. About damn time it served the actual interests of the American people.

Besides, it’s probably going to take tanks to pry the greedy fingers of Biden Harris from the White House 😂

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I didn’t approve it.

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The SCOTUS will strike it down, but it takes time.

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Oct 25·edited Oct 25

I'm hopeful (but feeling also like a big fool for being hopeful) that "they" will "allow" Trump to win this time for a few reasons:

1) Kamala really is too stupid -- can't be controlled -- when the shit hits the fan, she can't improvise or even tell a bald-faced lie very well without giving the game away -- she'll tell Putin all the secrets, including who told her "not to say it." I can imagine her drunk and bitter on the speakerphone: "And I'll tell you another thing, Vlad, and boy you are kinda sexy for such an old man, and did you really ride that bear, and anyway, HAHAHA, did you know we don't even have any working nukes at this point, HAHAHA, they'll be so mad at me for telling you, but, you know what, F%CK THEM! HAHAHA!"

2) They need Musk to launch their satellites, supply their Starlink, and rescue their astronauts, and Musk likes Trump. Musk could just roll up his bag o' jacks and walk away anytime he wants to.

3) They want Trump to take the "fall" for all the crapola on the way (Iran war, depression, housing collapse, etc. etc.), and also to be the "Bad Daddy" for some good stuff that needs to happen (close the borders, get tougher with China, etc. etc.)

4) Trump gotta hold of the Epstein client list (or similar blackmail gold), or gave his old Jersey Mafia buddies a little payola here and there (I'm looking at you Philly?)-- he made it personal.

5) It's time for Mayorkas and all the other Cabinet Goons to bail out and cash in on their 4 years of "public service," --they are tired of waiting.

6) There's a mountain of moola to be made "resisting Trump!"

7) They need four years of "GOP KKKAOS! OMG!" to prep Newson et al for 2028....

and last but not least, maybe,

8) it really is going to be "too big to rig" this time?

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I do believe you may have nailed it. Hopefully. The thought if Kamala as president is so disheartening I can barely stand to contemplate it.

Regarding Trump and Epstein - ever notice how many pictures of Trump with Epstein, and how few of Clinton and Epstein? Even though Clinton had frequent flyer miles on the Lolita Express? IMO, Trump was too aware of letting Epstein get in the way of business. Trump is a businessman. Clinton always knew he was going to get away with anything and everything.

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Yes, frightening. Too maintain a civilization, many things have to be done that don't make a profit. Will he bother to do them? Likewise, many things have to be forbidden that DO make a profit - like mass immigration of third world coolies. Will he forbid it or just "legalize" it?

It remains wrong even if it is legalized. See Thomas Aquinas on illicit laws.

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Musk

Did you know that he believes that America is where he can execute his plan to improve humanity, his goals to execute his plans. That is why he is against the Left and for Trump.

The USA is not sacrosanct for him though. He already has a massive Tesla plant in China. He has told California to Eff off with Tesla and Space X to the point that Newsom has had to kowtow to him or else a huge chunk of money would exit California.

My point is, this guy wants a platform to provide his business miracles. if the USA ceases to be that, China, Russia, heck Israel would love to get him on board. I would imagine he knows how to spell BRICS+.

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And if he leaves? The USA sinks another step into the swamp.

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Will he leave? Look at his track record. Newsom did.

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governor Newsom is a useless ideolog. Nobody likes him. He just looks the part. He's the perfect figure head. He competent enough to look presidential.

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I call him "Lord Summerisle." Every bit as creepy.

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A car in every driveway and a chip in every head. Does he admit that EV's are a disaster?

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EV’s are not a a disaster. Tesla stock is up because sales are up. EVs will be the car of the future, so matter what. If you are on this blog, you know peak oil. By 2050, oil will be becoming so expensive that car usage will decline. So we better have an alternative by then or WMBH will occur. Fact: The cybertruck outsold all other EVs in the last month. Fact: Tesla is going to offer Model 2 next year, $18000 with 400 mile range. Fact: Cities are going to have to create no car zones in their central areas and will be buying Robo taxis from Musk in droves, another example of his thinking ahead. Fact: A few more years and everyone will have the opportunity to have a Optimus robot. Fact: X has become a legitimate social media outlet since he fired all the Wokesters. Fact: Neurolink is helping people with spinal injuries now, a chip in every head is nonsense.

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John. Nonsense. Elec. vehicles blow up in water, burn out of control and if enough are produced there isn’t enough grid to power them all. BTW Peak Oil is a fraud. Oil is not nor never has been from a biological source as in fossil. It is generated from the earths core and surrounding geological materials. And is inexhaustible. You have my permission to stop the flagrant foul scare tactics.

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Facts. Also, and I didn't find this out until I finally caved and bought an ebike (to navigate the hills around here), that THEY blow up, too.

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Well are you aware the next generation of Teslas are going to be solid state, no more lithium fires? William, Peak oil is a fraud? Do you also believe in the Easter Bunny? Until the price of energy actually declines signifying that more supply is being produced, your abiotic theory is utter bullshit.

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One reason Musk is so excited to be part of the Trump Admin is that Trump will tariff the crap out of cheap CCCP EV's in order to protect US manufacturers. The Donald will expand tariffs so much as to reduce the need for income tax due to the expanding more productive economy.

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Yayyy! Team Sanity member!

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JAZ, what in the actual fuck are you smoking?

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Absolutely nothing, EVs are just going to increase as prices go down. Check out the Model 2 coming out in 2025.

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OK. As EV's "increase" the share of power to recharge them will decrease proportionally. In the end American driveways will be full of rusting hulks. Happy outlook.

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yep — he’ll leave if he wants to — with or without Trump.

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Agree 100 percent. In the Godfather, Don Corleone says that the way he operated was to not be too noticeable. He existed by flying under the radar. Kamala cannot do it. I think Joe put her in. It was supposed to be Newsome. Now they will try to pin everything on Trump and sneak Newsome in next time. I think Joe is not as far gone as people think. HE's sabotaging Kamala at every turn. He said they want to lock Trump up. That wasn't a slip, that was on purpose.

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+1 One of the best points made in this thread. REAL power shuns light (like cockroaches).

"In the Godfather, Don Corleone says that the way he operated was to not be too noticeable. He existed by flying under the radar."

Like the Mule in Isaac Asimov's Foundation Trilogy.

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If Lord Summerisle Newsome ever becomes CIC, I'm done. It's over. Next stop, Cuba.

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Gruesome Newsome in my book. But you are right. Find a tiny atoll and try to disappear

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Lookup Lord Summerisle. Dead ringer.

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Thank you so much for the Johnny Appleseed video. Makes my heart ache ❤️‍🩹 to think how good & true the country once was (or how good & true I always THOUGHT it was)….

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TV Networks should show Johnny Appleseed around the holidays, along with Rudolph, Frosty, etc. We could use a little cheering up now and then.

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If Jim was born in St Louis Park, Mn, he could've been adopted as the 3rd Coen brother.

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Agreed!! (from a St. Louis Park High School alumnus!)

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I thought that too. That in spite of all America's faults we did our best to be good and true.

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"in spite of all America's faults we did our best to be good and true"

Holy shet.

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I did. Maybe you didn't.

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"I did my BEST.", might be the line most commonly uttered verbatim by those incapable of self-examination.

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you don't know me and you have no business making that insult. But it's okay, it tells me what you are.

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Awfully defensive, aren't you =D

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That’s why I couldn’t even watch it. True depressing

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"By another odd coincidence, an outfit called the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association International (AFCEA) has scheduled an “exercise simulating a cyber-attack on critical infrastructure” for November 5 in Atlanta, Georgia. That’s election day. In a big swing state. Whose idea was that?"

Oh, ya mean like those NORAD exercises on 9.11.2001?

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Not even the least bit discreet anymore, are they?

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They're running out of time.

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They postponed it due to “too much disinformation” swirling around it.

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James, as you mentioned, the 'cackle'...it is so disturbing and unhinged to hear it. Here is a Bible verse that fits!

Ecclesiastes 7:6....For as the CRACKLING of thorns under a pot, so is the LAUGHTER of the FOOL: this also is vanity.

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Works for me.

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Spot on! Shit will be hitting the fan with another Trump presidency. I put nothing past the leftist democrats. They have been frustrated and angry for a long, long time and they can’t lose control. They just can’t! Scorched earth is coming. Gird your loins because their frustration will boil over on anyone who disagrees with them.

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There are quite a few of us older guys who are still good for the rifleman's quarter mile.

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And youngers as well.

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Beryl, is this you?

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Sigh

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It's time the lefties are put in their place. If Trump has the stomach, and puts the right people in place, there's no reason why law and order can't be restored, and civility can't be maintained. A sick society can be healed by lancing boils and cutting out cancers. It may not happen all at once or even over a 4-year term, but sooner or later, for our nation to survive, bold and daring action must be taken to get our country back.

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Not just lefties, but RINOs too. The issue is the Deep State, the DC crowd whose prime directive is preservation and expansion of itself. DC is the enemy of the people.

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Trump is anti-Deep State!

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I agree but we all need to get involved. I’m afraid the left has its boot on our neck so it’s going to take sacrifice, bravery and most importantly determination to put an end to their wickedness

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Ez. That’s the issue isn’t it.

If Trumpnis allowed back in the Oval, Congress will disapprove every Cabinet candidate and so dilute the President’s ability to do anything but sign endless non-binding resolutions.

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A person I know is into pulling Trump signs down. She HATE him (programmed) because her beloved niece is in ??? the MSM as a 'producer' VP at a MSM station. And she believe implicitly in her. Trump threatens her on so many many levels. She executed private property theft of a Trump sign ... I sent her the vid. of a booby trapped sign and told her that if she did get zapped it would be her own fault because THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY!

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And her reply was to 'giggle'. She is a very brain washed abortion on demand supporter. :*

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Yes, and unfortunately, even though she is very down in the polls, those idiots think that she’s actually going to win!!!

That’s what’s going to disappoint them the most ! Some of these dummies are going to actually be shocked!

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Remember 2016 and HRC. She was much higher in the polls than Kamala is now. Remember the victory party she had to cancel? It was a sweet moment.

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Sharon. Regardless who occupies the Oval the Democrats will retain power. So figure on Trump being in prison or dead. And it is likely Harris will never get there either. These are times none have ever walked.

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The Deep State will still be in control. I will look forward, if he wins, to what he will do to try to stomp on the Deep State. First, do not appoint one single person on his staff that has a history with the Deep State. Then remember that Congress is a Deep State shill where Leftists, RINOs are in control now. Hopefully, a few cowardly GOPers will side with Trump to undercut the Leftist dominated Deep State. Send Pence, Kinzinger and Cheney to China where they belong.

I was thinking, for most of us on the blog, we should be delighted whenever some one like John Kelly or Cheney come after Trump. More incentive to drive these Deep State MFs straight to hell where they belong. Everyone of them are ex-Trump appointees that he became wise to and fired. Right now people need to be loyal to Trump’s group instead of being loyal to the Deep State Mob. That is what we want, right?

I heard today that a Holocaust survivor is incensed at the Dems for calling Trump a Fascist, another Hitler. She is saying in so many words that these Aholes do not know what the Eff they are talking about.

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One of your best Jim.

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JHK, the challenge many of us have is the apparent lack of action by the GOP...4 years have passed by and we are still seeing the mass influx of illegals, increased crime rates, and rampant inflation. The real test will be 10-15 days after the election to see just how far the Left may go to steal the election and then...to see the reaction in the event Trump loses...For the most part the Republican base is tired of getting their ass kicked and watching Cotton, Scalise, and Massie hold hearings with ZERO action...We are already seeing what many of us perceive as illegitimate election activity...from mail in ballots to the same story about Dominion machines...We are tired of being led not by Inactivity but but NO ACTION...where the fuck is Mitch McConnell? Who are the people (corporations) behind the NGO's facilitating the mass immigration??? Boycotts do work at times (Bud Light) but I assure you that if the NGO's that are behind the mass illegal immigration were OUTED you would see a level of support rise against them legitimately....Elections have consequences but since 2020 the GOP continues to emulate Charlie Brown trying to kick the football from Democrat Lucy....If we had a dollar for every Republican in the senate who says one thing yet supports the opposite (think RINO) then we would all be very wealthy...The majority of many boomers would like to retire comfortably after 40 years of hard work...but we have been lied to and screwed by the very people who claim to represent us...Even if trump wins the Deep State will not allow him to be successful...we are a country in decline and unfortunately it is being done more than ever from WITHIN...by Americans who cannot see further than the length of their arm and their cell phone screen...We keep hearing about the silent majority but as in 2020...they acquiesce to their pre-election way of life...complaining that they are being fucked...

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Pretty sure Mitch McConnell is resting comfortably somewhere with a drool cup under his chin, very possibly side by side with OlSloJo himself.

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This holds true for both parties - though less for the GOP, a bit - never ever ever waste a great campaign issue by fixing it. The goal is divisiveness and distraction. As far as election cheating, yes, and now in your face. Whatever the Deep State wants to happen will happen. Kamala Klown idiotically triumphant, or Trump wins, and then everything that was going to happen anyway is blamed on him. Laying the foundation for the next election, blaming the Washington Generals, praising the Harlem Globetrotters, and the Deep State deciding on who is on which team. The gate receipts are divided up anyway, no matter who "wins".

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It is going to take lots of MAGA co-operation to undo the damage the Left has done to this country. A big one is to vote for Right wingers in your local elections.

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Speaking of damage, did you see that a Leftist judge in Virginia is trying to re-instate non-citizens on their voter roles. 1600 of them. Youngkin is beside himself. Another SCOTUS wannabe. The Left judiciary should be Trump’s first priority.

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Truer words never spoken.

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Your train metaphor puts me in mind of Victorian Edwin Milliken's poem, The Clattering Train. Churchill was fond of quoting an abridged version.

Who is in charge of the clattering train?

The axles creak, and the couplings strain.

Ten minutes behind at the Junction. Yes!

And we’re twenty now to the bad—no less!

At every mile we a minute must gain!

Who is in charge of the clattering train?

Why, flesh and blood, as a matter of course!

You may talk of iron, and prate of force;

But, after all, and do what you can….

Man is in charge of the thundering train!

Man, in the shape of a modest chap

In fustian trousers and greasy cap;

A trifle stolid, and something gruff,

Yet, though unpolished, of sturdy stuff….

Only a Man, but away at his back,

In a dozen cars, on the steely track,

A hundred passengers place their trust

In this fellow of fustian, grease, and dust….

The hiss of steam-spurts athwart the dark.

Lull them to confident drowsiness. Hark!

What is that sound? ‘Tis the stertorous breath

Of a slumbering man—and it smacks of death!

Full sixteen hours of continuous toil

Midst the fume of sulphur, the reek of oil,

Have told their tale on the man’s tired brain,

And Death is in charge of the clattering train!

Those poppy-fingers his head incline

Lower, lower, in slumber’s trance;

The shadows fleet, and the gas-gleams dance

Faster, faster in mazy flight,

As the, with sleep-sealed eyes,

Prone and helpless a log he lies!

A hundred hearts beat placidly on,

Unwitting they that their warder’s gone;

A hundred lips are babbling blithe,

Some seconds hence they in pain may writhe.

For the pace is hot, and the points are near,

And Sleep hath deadened the driver’s ear;

And signals flash through the night in vain.

Death is in charge of the clattering train

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It's not my job to run the train, the whistle I don't blow.

It's not my job to say how far the train's supposed to go.

I'm not allowed to pull the brake, or even ring the bell.

But let the damn thing leave the track and see who catches hell!

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Yes, the runaway train is a good metaphor for our Civilization. The guys at the controls aren't allowed to stop it. They're just "workers" after all. The guys in charge, the "owners" just want to make money. They don't care if everyone dies in a crash. That have IN-surance!

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Fuck Winston Churchill. Goddamned fucking warmongering hypocrite.

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+1 Can't believe someone here is aware of that drunken phony's Evil. You made my day.

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I would expect nothing less of the Woke Jacobins/Commies than a full-out temper tantrum of massive proportions if Trump wins. Sadly, I don't think that a Trump win will do much. Maybe halt the Wokeness a bit? Hard to say. I'm not going to waste time worrying about it, but it is fun to speculate.

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Mary Rose

The Left almost had it in the bag, total control of the Deep State, Until the Return of Orangeman. Hey, Marvel, sounds like a winner. I do not believe this country can co-exist any more, so the real issue in the next few years may become how to divide it up peacefully,

Or not.

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I don’t expect anything to change or be resolved with this election regardless of who wins. Just more division and hatred toward both sides.

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I don't expect big change if Trump wins, but maybe just stop the bleeding a bit. Slow down the downhill tumble. I am too old to care about me, it's my grands I ache for that they might have a shot at a normal life. Nevertheless given this is a most unique era, I am on high alert for anything.

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Did you see the announcement yesterday that the new American Dream is to own a townhouse? We are very close to the USSR of the 20th century.

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Oh? I thought they were gonna skip all pretenses and shove us into stack 'n' packs. They are building them everywhere, and storage unit places are also popping up right next to them.

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15-minute cities where at first you don't need to leave, and later you won't be able to.

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I see this everywhere in our area in North Georgia. Storage facilities and not only that but massive windowless warehouses. So, you do have to wonder... is this something with nefarious purpose or is this just much wants more so we have to have places to store all the stuff that we buy from the companies that use the warehouses that are taking over the countryside. ARGHHHHH!

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I think what is more telling is that we no longer trust our government. What you have seen can be completely innocuous but all of us have had our eyes opened to the evil that our government has become and we don’t trust it any longer.

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Fifteen minute cities. Pack/stack/track. You will own nothing & be happy (if they haven’t deep 6’d you).

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I do understand that the globalists want us in cages but I could write a treatise on this topic. It takes several generations for the pendulum to swing and if you live long enough and you are observant you can see the back and forth changes. Growing up in the fifties my family of two parents and two siblings felt rich because we had a two bedroom one bath, single car carport house in the growing suburbs of Houston. As I was raising my three kids, we felt rich to have a three bedroom 1-1/2 bath house in a Tulsa suburb. Slowly as the economy changed and there were more families with two incomes, the goal upped for larger homes, bedrooms and baths for each kid. Now, my oldest grandson, who is 32 would be more than happy to have a tiny house on a couple of acres. He is something of a minimalist, but not a globalist. The only constant in life is change.

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I dream of a carboard shack in the desert as per the book, Rancho Costa Nada. Visited every fortnight by Jeannie with the light brown hair.

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Funny, Lugh. Real stuff. When we visited Mazatlan back in the 70s, I was amazed at people along the roadside living in cardboard boxes, the poverty was offensive. As we have visited Mexico on and off through the years, their conditions have improved significantly. On a visit to Puerto Vallarta two years ago, the roads had no cardboard boxes, but loads of nice small single family houses. Mexico has become wealthy and spread its wealth down the economic ladder. A lot of the capital shift is Americans, Canadians and Europeans investing there. So as the Left has impoverished the USA Mexico has benefitted. Trump has already threatened to start tariffing autos built in Mexico, a sign he has noticed the discrepancy.

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What a small world. I almost never post personal information on the internet but I lived in Tulsa for over 30 years. The goal is to get back there. By the way, the past time in that area is to buy a huge, newly built home, sell it and buy a larger newly built home in a few years. Building massive homes drives that economy. They have more boob jobs than LA A more pretentious town you will not find unless it’s Carmel Indiana

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I lived there from 1968 to 1987 - raised my kids there. I have not been back in all these years - no relatives there or reason to go. My son went there for a funeral a few years ago. He took a trip down memory lane and drove through the old neighborhood. He said it was run down and sad. The neighborhood community pool is now just an empty lot.

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Cheryl. All posts here as well as yours neglect the 30m humans on our midst who have no allegiance to or respect for US law. They ignored it to enter here and are under no obligation to obey. If only 1% have evil intent and carry out existing plans the entire nation will devolve into chaos. Division and hatred achieved is just a bonus consequence of the destruction of the US Empire. Empires btw have expiration dates and ours is upon us.

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Comment sections just serve to anesthetize the populous while the wicked work to destroy us. Those who want to destroy us invented social media and our destruction is at hand. Though I am guilty of it, I am so tied of comment vomit. Voting won’t fix shit but I voted early.

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If DJT wins in spite of the cheat, the left will go batshitt crazy

The analogy would be ripping off the bandage covering the divide in America then pulling the wound open with two vise grip pliers and two WWE wrestlers manning the pliers

Wont be pretty and i betcha it wont stay isolated

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Political New Madrid, here we come!

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Kudos to Kunstler who exposed the greatest crime of the century by the left in their seditious plan to transform America with a complicit media by replaying Hitler Big Lie theory to deceive the American people that Trump was the greatest threat to America.

Trump winning the Presidency will be the biggest story in American history overcoming eight years of vilification and Lawfare to destroy Trump based on manufactured lies by the left. Gobbels pointed out the problem with the Big Lie theory and the threat to the deep state was the truth. It appears that the truth will overcome evil so let the meltdown on the left begin.

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Well, you know what Lincoln said about fooling the people.

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I sent a link to the Johnny Appleseed video to my neighborhood Elementary School librarian. I am hoping the kids wind up seeing it. Thanks for being both realistic and idealistic. A rare gift nowadays.

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The funny expression that I heard 50 years ago is " if you put 'Biden's' brain in a mustard seed it would rattle like a pea in a boxcar!"

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That's hilarious, Fred. How do you assess Trump's intellect, may I ask?

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Trump has excellent street smarts and understands the value of looking good. Ronald Reagan also had these qualities and is judged as one of the better American Presidents.

I personally prefer DeSantis as he possesses all the good traits of Trump and he is smarter at getting things done. Trump is easier to stonewall.

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Also, Fred, “all the good traits of Trump”? Which ones are we talking about? The narcissism? The greed? The hypocrisy? The racism? The misogyny? The arrogance? The stupidity? The cruelty? Help me out here, please.

And if Trump is preoccupied with looking good, please help me understand why he looks as he does, painted orange, obese, with cotton candy hair. And I certainly agree that Reagan was one of the great presidents — for the very rich.

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And never mind that that which DeSantis gets done is almost invariably horrifying.

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The American left couldn't care less. They are all about tyranny and terrorism, control and slavery over the lower class. They do not care how anyone perceives them or what they think of them. They do not possess that kind of awareness or conscious. They are robotic drones, unthinking and uncaring.

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They are idiots, simpletons.

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They remind me of fungus gnat larva

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Not so sure about that. They are just on the current winning team. They are essentially Yankee fans, always on the short list to win, so they keep rooting as if they are truly winning.

For most of my peers (in the city, at least), life is good for them and their families, spouses and kids think they're gods for making it, and "America" is still working for them (either through endless corporate promotion as long as they conform, or by simply paying the way of those with no skills beyond blind loyalty and hubris).

However, most are not unthinking drones that don't care about anything. They just don't pay attention to what should be obvious in the slanted news, because the inherent negatives are not currently affecting them negatively. So why would they want a shift? Answer: they wouldn't, and neither would most any of us, if the circumstances were so obviously tilted in our favor.

That said, they do make me crazy. To be "smart" and "educated" has become an industry, but the meaning has been lost. These folks couldn't frame a door or tune up a lawnmower, let alone understand the inherent cultural decline that a lack of real-world skills is creating across the board.

Either way, I guess my point is by casting "them" all into a category of being unthinking or sub-human, we would be no better than "them" for their inane parroting of rhetoric about "us".

Sadly, the solution is that "they" need to feel some of the pain of the real world. As long as "they" are comfortable, it will only get worse for those not living on the third rail. When they unwittingly downsize themselves out of their own jobs via AI or "migrants" and can't afford to pretend that they belong in a 5-bedroom suburban palace with endless NFL Redzone, then they may rethink their politics. Not before. The only way to save the middle class is for them to realize their comfortable status is very tenuous, and always has been. This will force many to open their eyes and feel some humility and vulnerability, which will not be pretty, at least at first.

Or...someone will go kinetic and that will change everything real quick. Humans haven't changed, ever. Only the times.

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Good post, as always. "Rooting", ya say? Now you've touched a nerve, LOL....My Kiwi boyfriend once had some guests staying over and he said, "they were rooting all weekend"...and I was like, what do you mean by "rooting"? And he calmly said, "Making love, darling." LOL!!!!

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Reminds me of an old engraving featuring two dignified hogs and captioned, "Let us root for Dear Old Princeton.".

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